Hi, I’ve been playing the 710 AP2s for several seasons (high single digit handicap) and I’m in the market for a new set of irons. I can get the T200 with KBS 105 stiff. well below the neutral axis, upon impact the club head will hinge backwards. Because the head is physically larger, the Max Impact core that supports the face needed to be larger, but otherwise the polymer material is the same, and just like T200, the placement of the Max Impact technology appears off-center. some serious club head speed and ball speed), is that the pga numbers for decent angle are 50 degrees. Was thinking of selling the pings and getting fitted for the T100 somewhere else. Can someone explain the physics or material advancements? Etc. That means it’s categorized as player’s distance iron, even if, from a shaping perspective it’s closer to an AP2 710 or 712. Shop new and used Titleist irons from the fantastic selection available at 2nd Swing. Audio feedback is less clear: pure strikes and mishits sound quite similar. My 3 iron speed is about 103mph, 6 iron around 94, driver 114 and I hit down with all clubs, aoa of the driver is down 1 degree, 6 iron around 5. As if choosing your new Titleist 718 irons wasn’t difficult enough, THEY ADDED THE AP3!!! I hate all the cookie cutters. Learn how your comment data is processed. The Titleist T200 irons are the successor to the AP3. I started playing 15 months ago (hcp 30) and now I’m hcp 9. I used to hate that much spin and used to fight it by swinging “slower.”. Sounds like you might be an engineer at a club company..I mean that sincerely not as a smartA$$ comment. This louder sound pairs with a feel that is firm. The Mizuno JPX EZs have a Project XLZ shaft and not sure I want to use it again. “Our design philosophy for irons is always to try and stretch out the long and mid-iron end of the set because most players don’t have a ton of their disposal – at some point your gaps are going to start shrinking at the long iron end of the set, so we’re always trying to pull that out to make the set more usable for the largest cross-section of users. I don’t think there’s a true parallel for the T-MB, but I’d probably say the T200 is the closest. It’s like a murder mystery hahaha. Which one do you think is the best fit? For example; T100 scratch up to 10, T200 11 to 20. I am thinking of getting the T100 or T200. Ap3 seems to be as close to the ceiling as possible.pride makes me choose AP2s because they look like a better players club and still offers me a decent level of forgiveness. To ME that’s important. Callaway Maverick Pro, Apex 19, Titleist t200, and Taylormade p790. around the neutral axis, will not hinge much or at all so there won’t be an increase or reduction in spin from the gear effect and it will launch lower than the iron with the low CG. Very interesting reviews of T100 and T200s. I am trying to decide between Mizuno Hot Metal, Mizuno HMB, and TMp790. Here’s a video from one of the best clubfitters in the biz. In addition to being longer, the T200 is more forgiving than the T100. Are the 200’s forged and are they for the mid handicapper? P•770 vs. P•790 ... Titleist Vokey Slate Blue Wedge Combines Beauty and Durability. And ultimately, all that matters is how it performs for you, not what it does for me. As you’ll with each iron, all of what Talge says is inarguably true. I have looked up optimal landing angle,and it seems the fitter was referring to the same type of link: https://blog.trackmangolf.com/landing-angle/. Really liked the feel of the Mizuno’s but I’m very Titleist brand loyal. Titleist hopes that by offering the complete package – looks, feel, and distance, it can’t get golfers excited about its irons. I haven’t a clue what looks buyers will need to get past. Didn’t try the T100’s. Do you think T100 or T200 would suit my needs best? The fitter finally gave up and told me he couldn’t match my current numbers as the decent angle and spin hit the optimal range on some chart he was carrying. Precise when you pure it, and forgiving when you don’t. When I’m playing / practicing like I should, I strike my irons pretty well, I’m just conflicted between wanting more distance vs. losing some of the launch and spin rates the T100 seems to give. Does it come down to personal choice or is one stand out? The set design is progressive, meaning the heads get steadily smaller as the clubs get shorter. The top line of the T300 is much thicker than the T200 irons, but the blade length is about the same. I have similar numbers but I don’t hit a 7 iron that far. Shame on club mfgr’s for continuing to push this ego boosting nonsense. I find this fine balance on what club companies are doing very interesting. Many of our customers are asking how the AP3 fits into the line up. Respectfully, I think that assigning handicap ranges to clubs is overly simplistic and not very helpful. The actual irons delivered to customers will not have that lump on it. The 3 iron to 5 iron are razor thin soles with beveled edge at the front, assuming that you may way to Bend the lofts without affecting the bounce. With a lower center of gravity, both T200 and T300 provide an increased launch angle, giving Titleist design engineers the ability to decrease lofts through the set. Continuing our trampoline analogy; if you wanted more bounce (even more speed) – let’s call it a double-bounce – what would you do? All the new T irons are great, but the differences are not worth 2 strokes compared to the 718s. But I have enough clubhead speed and dynamic move through the ball to hit them easily. For many golfers, the AP3 hit the sweet spot between the AP2 and AP1 – it had some forgiveness but still retained that “better player” look. that out mean I have an incredibly low swing speed: I only hit it about 15-160 yards. If you have the opportunity to compare AP2 and T100 side by side, you’ll find that the new iron is appreciably more compact. What if any reported review have you gotten. I used to be able to spin back a 3 iron hahaha. I tried a 5 iron T300 (regular, steel shaft), and while I liked it, I found no difference in fall flight or distance from my AP1 918 with a graphite shaft. As a team Titleist player I can’t wait to try these out. It;s changes like these that remind me why I am happy with what I currently play. Go to rankings . AP2 and now T100 are really game improvement irons for Tour players and the T100 will probably take over as the most played iron on tour. Decent angle 45* and 8900 rpm spin. Still playing off 9-10, but lose most of my shots around and on the green. As we work our way through the new models, you’re going to see new constructions, new materials, and as you’d expect, strong lofts too. I’m very interested in the new Hogan irons and will certainly try the new Titleist offering for comparison. Titleist T100, T200, and T300 irons are available for fittings beginning August 8th. I don’t have to hit a T300 to see it’s different. Per Titleist, it’s in the “mid and long irons.”. Well, I just read the review on the AP3s and it looks like the T200 is an improvement. “From a fitting perspective, if you can get those three,” says Josh Talge, “you’re going to play way better golf.”. Is that a comparable move ? I found the T200 to be 1.5 to 2 clubs longer than the T100. I’m very interested to try the 200 and 300 series. Cheers Mike. It’s DIFFERENT! In this case, I think it’s likely done by reducing the amount of tungsten around the sole of the club, but there are plenty of ways to do it. So earlier this fall when Titleist released the new T200, wh Total Rating 100%. Hi Matt, I promised my 712 AP2’s (which I loved) to my son when he got to a single figure h’cap. I don’t think the T200 is going to give you the forged feel you’re looking for. Yes, it’s a game-improvement iron, so that part of it is an AP1, but everything else is different.”. All Rights Reserved.. Home; Municipio; Gestão; Servidor Público; Ouvidoria; Coronavírus; Links Úteis; Tel. Like its predecessor, the T200 irons have a forged face that promotes better feel and stronger standard lofts wrapped up in a confidence inspiring head that will suit the eye of better players. Above, you can see the entire T Series, T100, T200, and T300 from left to right. The new T100 irons were released by Titleist in 2019. Titleist irons offer something for everyone from the beginning golfer to players on the PGA Tour. T300 lofts are jacked just a bit beyond that of the T200, but Titleist remains adamant that when you try the irons for yourself, you’re going to see that stronger lofts and added distance don’t come at the expense of green-stopping power and general playability. Lowest price found: $937.50. If your goal is to bounce higher (create more speed), what do you do? That different direction is potentially the next big thing from Titleist – the company’s first new iron franchise in nearly 12-years. I picked up a set of the T200 in Dec 2019. I do plan to hit them when I finally can. the T100’s should not even be mentioned with the other 2 and be placed with the CB/MBs. “We want to give players the performance that they need, but also be the thing that gets their hair to stand up on end, even in a fitting bay.”. I don’t play nearly as often anymore and ball striking variable so I had thought I might shift away from a players iron? The T100 is a forged head, the T200 is a forged face. HOW THE 718 APs DIFFER FROM THE … Matt I have P790 are they close to T200 in play ability. After retiring from football I’ve been getting back into golf seriously. Tony believes that golfers deserve to know what's real and what's not, and that means MyGolfSpy's equipment coverage must extend beyond the so-called facts as dictated by the same companies that created them. What I do understand is that a large portion of golfers can’t hit irons effectively with a loft of less than 26*. Interesting that Ian asked to weaken the lofts and Matt’s comments were that he would really struggle to have control. But my question is about finish durability?. I enjoy watching their stuff. Last weekend my club had a Titleist fitting tent set up so I scheduled a full fitting as I like the looks of these irons and wanted to try a full fitting. It’s likely the shorter irons have less tungsten in the sole which is how they’re elevating the CG in those irons. Callaway Apex 2019 . When striking the ball it sounds so hard like I’m hitting rocks and I’ve no confidence in them. The lack of loft must have an effect on the dynamic loft and therefore low ball flights and lack of carry. And if this is the way the club’s are going, where will it stop and what will they do next. The Titleist T200 irons fit a clear niche in the new Titleist line up. Better driver head designs, improved shafts, stable putters, and lately more forgiving irons have all contributed to not only make us better golfers but enjoy the game more !!! It comes down to CG placement. Really interested in the T-200. Very thin toplines. Off handicap alone, I think I would lean toward the T200, but I would recommend trying both and getting fit. We know that golfers don’t always maintain logical or even sensible gaps between wedges, so the hope is that by showing the loft on the set wedge, it will make it easier for golfers to find the right loft for the next wedge in their bag. Thanks. I looked into Titleist Thursday’s on their website but can’t find any listings near where I live in New Hampshire. I’ve been switching back and forth between 2 sets of irons in the last month; one from 2016 with “jacked” lofts and one from 2009 with lofts that are weaker(3.5 degrees on 5 iron, down to 1 degree on the gap wedge). Titleist hopes you’ll look past the numbers long enough to allow it to dispel the notion of loft-jacking. Bit tough to understand but explains loft and ball curvature well: t100’s are really nice…the other 2 are horrible. Certainly speed, strike and face control must increase beyond what a club can offer. The piece to understand here is the sweet spot is in the center of the hitting area, while Max Impact is in the geometric center of the entire clubface. Thank you so much. This change in shafts from project x 6.5 (I’m getting older at 50) gave me an additional 11 yards on my 6 iron and reduced my dispersion. if there’s a subject you want to know about, search it on here, he’s probably written about it at some point. First read what you had to say about the 718 AP3. That’s not to say loft-jacking isn’t real, or that it isn’t problematic when poorly executed, but Titleist believes its approach – a fitting campaign it calls GET DIALED 3D – will overcome the pitfalls common to many of its competitors’ jacked irons. I had a fitting earlier in the year at a Titleist Thursday for the AP3’s which I really liked but I wanted to wait for the new releases. Of the irons you mention, my preference is for the P790, but I would let the fitting and performance determine which one I went with. bellairemi 99 Posted August 29, 2019. bellairemi Member; 99 126 posts; Handicap: 6; Joined Dec 2015 Share; Posted August 29, 2019. The impact sound is markedly louder, more of a crack than a click. Since all of these irons are pricey I have to get refitted so I am not sure I want a stock shaft. However, the AP3 fits in between the AP1 and AP2. I’m not as young as I used to be and my handicap is hovering in the lower mid range. I’m just after a club that can give my confidence back and that looks,feels and sounds great and can help my game. Thank you. Advanced Members; 2 3,653 posts; Feedback. Thank you Tony C. Tony consistently provides the best in-depth golf writing in the business in my mind. Great review and lead me into T200 4-gw……my question is ; the tungsten weighting…..is it the whole set or just the longer irons? Titleist wasn’t done any favors when the less than glamorous shots for the USGA’s conforming grooves database leaked before the glamour shots were released. The stronger lofts, thin faces, etc. My handicap is 22, and as a 71 year old player I have lost some distance. Your email address will not be published. I realize this is all slightly convoluted and I’m not convinced the physics directly translate, but hopefully, it provides some sort of visual for how this Max Impact thing is supposed to work. Basically that means they are a pretty good option for low and mid handicappers that want great distance without sacrificing feel (or gaming a chunky spaceship style game improvement iron). I had a re-read and my question still remains. It lands and rolls a few feet forward. I love the T300 look. The original AP1 was a super game improvement iron and the AP2 was a game improvement iron. T300 are so high & easy to hit. It is really puzzling to me. Now, almost all irons look like those Walmart sets from years ago. Needless to say- I’m not changing irons at this time. Matt is the Founder and Editor in Chief of Plugged In Golf. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. With a 3D approach, Titleist argues that stronger lofts don’t have to mean diminished playability, though Talge is all too well aware that if you hope to sell many irons, they better perform on the launch monitor – and that means you have to keep up. Hi Matt The 2019 and 2020 Titleist T-Series irons: On August 30th, the Titleist T-Series T100 (AP2 replacement), T200 (AP3 replacement), and T300 (AP1 replacement) will hit retail stores, and what will be waiting for golfers is an iron line that will satisfy on multiple levels.. That’s a part of the story that will repeat itself with each iron we discuss. It is in the top 10%. The real-world manifestation of the exercise ball is a new polymer core positioned inside the iron which not only produces more speed but helps to balance the speed across the entire face. Very interesting question. If the CG is low in the head, e.g. Both of these irons fall into the “player distance” category. Granted it was with some slightly different shafts than stock, but it was impressive. After talking to the pro he saying I would have went Titleist or Mizuno. Progressive CGs are used for similar reasons. Limited Run: T100•S and T200 Black Irons. The only knock was that it wasn’t quite the best on the low in the face shots (some other irons I hit at the same time were better with that miss). The lower lofts, coupled with the higher launch and reduced total backspin results in more distance and steeper descent angles. When I started playing in the 90’s, I could spot the difference between “good” irons and their big box store cousins by appearance, even though I was just a novice golfer. Serious distance. Do stronger lofts promote a subconscious scooping action as the longer irons are used? Hopefully this helps. The Callaway Apex 19 is the ultimate forged players distance iron. Compared to AP3, this Titleist T200 seems more of the conventional cavity back iron, since its weight likens the toe area. 2021年1月21日重庆市新冠肺炎疫情情况 2021-01-21; 2021年1月20日重庆市新冠肺炎疫情情况 2021-01-20; 重庆市卫生健康委员会关于2020年法治政府建设情况的报告 2021-01-19; 重庆市卫生健康委员会关于建立社会办民营医疗机构传染病报告... 2021-01-19 关于确认王昆同志职称的公示 … Like traditional Titleist irons exceptionally playable. ” of AMT Black shaft with the ball seemed to come off too.! ( 79 ) -taper shafts in it like a driving iron or like the look of the line. First AP1 and AP2 said same things and after watching and reading a! Take a beating to place an exercise ball under the trampoline and it. 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